Transcending the co-dependent – manipulator spectrum
What is the value of experience?
Why is one object more valuable than another object?
(Object = Belief/Paradigm (an even subtler pervasive feeling such as identity ego or a whole abstract story, Thought(Images/ Subtle movement of thinking), Emotion(Internal feeling of energies and movement), Sensory perception(sight, sound, smell, touch, taste etc.)
For example:
Why is gold more valuable than stone? From the point of view of awareness, aren’t both of them having the same fullness?
So is it that, the absolute value of ALL is the same, which is consciousness (the one substance that makes up everything).
But relative value is created by the belief system present. This breaks up the multiplicity of objects into a hierarchy.
So essentially in the journey of experience:
First there is ONENESS, then there is the principle of SEPARATION, then there is MULTIPLICITY, then there is HIERARCHY/RANKING (based on belief paradigm).
So the question about ‘What is the value of experience?’ lies in questioning the ‘Hierarchy/ranking’ part of the journey of experience which falls out of oneness – to separation – to multiplicity – to hierarchy/ranking, at every moment.
Oneness = Absolute
Separation, Multiplicity, Hierarchy/Ranking = Relative
So the value system/belief system is the IMPLICIT creating the explicit of Hierarchy/Ranking in experience.
When considered from the point of view of ONENESS or the ABSOLUTE, value is seen as an additional layer that filters experience into hierarchy/ranking. So the ABSOLUTE then is basically veiled by the VALUE BELIEF SYSTEM.
That is why, the ABSOLUTE is beyond/TRANSCENDS VALUE.
Love is subtle-ization of gross energy
The movement of subtle-ization of gross energy is the transformation of love.
This does not happen from outside. But it is a transformation initiated within the gross energy itself – to subtle-ize itself – to love itself. And this endogenous energy of subtle-ization frees the gross energy AND the gross energy thereby utilizes its own potential of subtle-ization to free itself.
To give an analogy to reduce the abstractness, every cell, every part, every atom, or every unit of experience has the capacity to love itself, or subtle-ize itself. The energy for love does not come from outside, that is an illusion. The energy coming from outside can make inspire you, make it easier, serve as an example for you to initiate that process within your OWN experience. Ultimately, the outside energy simply REMINDS YOU, evokes or inspires that part of YOU, your endogenous potential energy, for subtle-ization or loving the entities of your own experience.
Everything happens by itself, even the process/alchemy of love which frees the gross to the subtle happens from love (or subtle-ization force).
Another analogy for understanding subtleization would be – Heat a metal ball –> it becomes liquid –> Heat the liquid –> It becomes gas. So the gas is the freed subtle-ized version of the gross which was the metal ball.
In this case, the koshas concept can be used to demonstrate this process:
The experience of no identification
Thought and Imagination cannot take you to the source
There is no ABSOLUTE point of view
All movement is mutual.
This can be clearly seen only from a detached point of view.
Because if you yourself are standing on one of the moving balls
then your view is only relative to your position.
Its like saying, stars revolve around earth,
when standing at the earth.
But when standing outside the solar system,
it seems like planets revolve around the sun etc.
They both are valid from their points of view
And THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE POINT OF VIEW
Except that the full knowledge that ‘All points of view are relative and equal possibilities’.
In other words, true knowledge is that
Everything is only an appearance,
No thing has any individual separate essence
All things share the same essence
And this shared essence is ‘Nothing’
The absolute truth is nothing.
And all appearances are valid from their respective point of view
And the appearances from all points of view are equivalent
And one can move from one to another and still be whole, complete and equally real.
However, you do see the entirety of the appearance
Along with the knowledge of ‘Nothing is essence’.
So the absolute truth may be ‘ever changing appearances with having nothing as essence or the essence is a mysterious infinite possibility’.
The flip flop of patterns in generations, and why seeking goes on forever
Interesting things about Love
Your prison walls are made up of the very ‘THINGS’ you are avoiding.
I am always living and will live in fear, even if I successfully avoid ‘X’ completely, because even if I successfully avoid ‘X’, ‘X’ would still be there in my awareness which is the root problem. And funnily, me trying to avoid ‘X’, somehow paradoxically brings me much more of ‘X’. When analyzed deeper it is not a paradox at all, because my belief that ‘X’ is real always stays in the subconscious and the subconscious will obviously retain what you think is real, all the time. That is the reason the experience repeats itself again and again.
The way out of this is to first understand that ‘Nothing is real’, after that, it is a question of shifting deeply from a -(-1) mindset to a +1 mindset. Now after this is done, further transcendence can be achieved when you see ‘Everything is self, and you have never left it EVER for eternity’. That can bring about total peace.
So I hide until ‘X’ goes away. Another person can have the same reality structure with only the last element being different. So then, instead of hiding or dissociating from ‘X’, the person tries to beat the ‘X’ out of the other person (say X is an undesirable quality in the other person).
So then the 2 people have more or less the same reality by en-large but in the first case, one hides/dissociates from the other, and in the second case, one attacks/tries to manipulate the other. But the end motive is the same, ‘I WANT TO GET RID of ‘X’. Which is in turn based on believing that X is a reality (it is not really real at all in truth), X is bad (There is no inherent good or bad besides the quality you choose to project).



