Intrinsic value of music

These thoughts came to me from an interesting discussion about meditation/awareness/alcohol.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread547291/pg2

I guess broadly there are 2 parts to the mind:
1. The judgment part, thinking/conceptual mind
2. Non conceptual, non judgmental awareness

  • It sometimes strikes me that, if I just hear music without association i.e. with a blank mind, I just feel plain bliss, no pleasure, no pain. Maybe this is like the 2nd part of the mind.
  • So its like, my thinking mind/conceptual mind and judgment has to switched ON for me to really get a kick out of the music(turning on the conceptual mind).

– That is why maybe after consuming alcohol, I enjoy music far more as it strengthens the activity in the thinking/judgment part of the mind and dulls the 2nd part.

– So what is the intrinsic value of music then?Is it only through associations/concepts/judgments that we feel the real pleasure/kick out of music?

Understanding higher dimensions

Higher dimensions can be imagined by looking at how you view lower dimensions. For e.g.: If you want to imagine something 4D, you need to understood how we interact with 2D objects. How would we appear to an entity who is 2D. They can only see edges (actually this edge too had 0 thickness, but for practical purposes lets assume they can see very thin edges like the thickness of a paper). Such 2D entities can never see us in our 3D entirety.

For e.g. say a circular 2D entity and we pass our finger through a paper, they would just see a circle forming with increasing diameter till its circumference is equal to that of our finger and then when we take our hand off, this circle would reduce in size and then vanish.

You(a 3D entity) can touch the center of the circle(2D entity) without breaking its edges. In a similar way, maybe a 4D entity could touch our inner organs without cutting us open.

The movie “Flatland” portrays this concept really well of 2D entities interacting with a 3D entity.
This can be supplemented with further reading about the allegory of “Plato’s cave”.

Self armor

I am really attracted to people who do not have a ‘self armor’ on. Its a kind of openness, vulnerability (not the same as naive at all). People who face their feelings squarely and who can clearly express it without feeling threatened. Also people who have understood what anger really is and have learn’t to control it. Since they have controlled anger they tend to be more polite and diplomatic. Its kind of like a rose, its totally open, helpless yet so pure and beautiful.

The reason for liking these attributes traces back to my childhood. I had some abusive(verbal) relationships of the extreme kind. It was powerful enough to really shatter me. So I had to generate this really powerful self armor, examine each weakness and patch it up with some defense of offense. Later I realized how terrible this self armor and how much better life would be without it. Then once the environment got less threatening, I started loosening it up and I can imagine how good it would feel to almost give it up.

It may not be practical in life to totally let down armor since you might meet many people who would influence you in undesirable ways. But I think its possible in a 1-1 relationship where both the people have experiential knowledge on this fact and agree to let down their armors at-least in front of each other. It takes a lot of deep intra-personal understanding of a philosophical kind, knowledge on varied perspectives and lastly free thinker abilities from both the parties. That would make an incredible difference in the ease of opening up.

The Golden ratio

This is one of the most fascinating concepts I have come across after Plato’s cave. I am aware that we can find patterns for almost anything but the number of coincidences in this case is just too large to dismiss. This ratio seems to be resonating everywhere. 1.618 is the number, it is derived from the fibonacci series. I think it could provide us powerful answers for defining beauty.

Why look into philosophy

Its really funny to see people moving about like mindless creatures and they really don’t know what they really want. They do not even bother to investigate. Its like, they might say, you know what I really want is a girlfriend or car etc. How exactly will that satisfy them? Hmm, I don’t think they care, they are more interested in the dream or pursuit and so confident in the reward. How can an intelligent person miss this? and trust society’s beliefs so much and barely question them? Its Baffling. It doesn’t even take some extremely complex questioning, just look at all the billionaires around. Are they the most fulfilled with ultimate happiness and no more needs. Its obvious they are not. Its not to discount their accomplishment but to look at it from a higher perspective. And people retort with “Ohh…we have more important things to worry about”. LOL, what can be more important. They are living in a sort of dream and they don’t care and have this false sense that they are after “more important” things. I feel like screaming “IGNORANCE”. Its unbelievable. Hope some circumstance/future event wakes them up before death comes.

Ayn Rand has written an excellent article on the same question: http://www.tracyfineart.com/usmc/philosophy_who_needs_it.htm

Here is another great one: http://30sleeps.com/blog/2009/01/04/why-you-should-study-philosophy/
http://www.uri.edu/personal/szunjic/philos/whystudy.htm

I think philosophy needs a lot of rare skills like:
1. A good level of detachment from your beliefs, thinking and reasoning so that you can look at it objectively
2. Ability to handle ambiguity, paradoxes, hold unanswered questions. Leonardo Da Vinci mentions these as qualities possessed by gifted individuals
3. Abilities possessed by free thinkers
4. A desire to know what is REALLY true, a desire for integration
5. A great deal of courage to venture into the unknown to the depths of the mind
6. Higher value in seeking understanding vs practical knowledge

About whether opposites attract

This article appeared in New Scientist, Opposites do not attract in mating game
 
Souls attract to those who are on the same frequency, have similar lessons and needs, often reflect their issues to help them understand and cope, and for reasons that say souls need to be with those of like mind or like frequency. When you move out of frequency, or out of synch for your vibration, life becomes static, and does not flow leading to illnesses and accidents.

Opposites attract, but those of like mind (frequency, having the same goals), have a better chance of attracting something permanent. Functional meets functional, and they have a chance. Dysfunctional meets dysfunctional and it all goes to drama. In this time line, souls are trying desperately to move past drama and into balance and awareness.

To move out of frequency usually is because of hormones and sexual chemistry, mix in bit of past or parallel life soul connection, karma, and souls become obsessive and out of control. They seek the ‘high’ one gets when ‘in love’ and usually accompanied with sexual bliss.
Sexuality is about chemistry or pheromones, but, as in all thing is life, it also goes to consciousness (mind), and has much to do with compatibility of partners (frequency grids matching.) If the needs are the same, it works!

Most of us know that frequency is hard to perpetuate, and so the frequency lowers when issues enter the equation. If you are a normal, educated, balanced person, who does not need a caretaker, does not need illnesses to survive, then you will avoid the opposite polarity of soul experience. You meet someone who has substance abuse or is mentally ill, and, if you are aware, you stop before you start with that person, no matter how bored or desperate you are for a relationship, or how strong the chemistry is.

We all seek The One as the energy of the experience creates a high’ and you feel in balance. There is nothing like it. Take it for what it is and enjoy it while it lasts, especially if it opens your heart.

State of flow – diagram

Interesting diagram on the state of flow which is one of the most desirable states. We frequently try to move towards it. It provides a new perspective for looking at things